hello, world printing in portrait

DRUMSZ
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hello, world printing in portrait

Post by DRUMSZ » Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:30 pm

Hi All
got this baby set up in under a week working a little at night
last night I tryed the hello world test and it prints in portrait ????? checked and double checked all wiring is right.(from the front goes along the left rail)

any ideas\help ????????? I am at a loss for this one.
Thanks

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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by cvoinescu » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:13 pm

Okay, back up a bit. For any problem report:
  • What did you do?
  • What happened?
  • What did you expect to happen instead?*
I'm not sure what you mean by "in portrait", given that the machine is more or less square. Hello World should print parallel to the gantry. Standing in front of the machine, with the pen facing you, the text should be the right way up.

Assuming you're printing the Shapeoko 2 "hello world", if it comes out:
  • Parallel to the gantry, not mirrored, not upside down: congratulations, that's how it should be.
  • Parallel to the gantry, upside down but not mirrored: invert direction on both X and Y axes.
  • Parallel to the gantry, upside down mirrored (S to the left and 2 to the right): invert direction on Y axis.
  • Parallel to the gantry, right-to-left mirrored (S to the right and 2 to the left): invert direction on X axis.
  • Perpendicular to the gantry: swap X and Y axes between them, and try again.
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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by DRUMSZ » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:14 pm

did build buy the plan
machine jogs around fine
had to swap x and y had them backwards

when I move all the axis I can see the stepper driver light on the correct axis y=y z=z x=x
at this point every thing seems good

when I load hello world it prints parallel to the left x axis not the gantry

did as you said and swapped x and y
the way I had it initially and that
causes the y to bang the left rail
which it did at first

sorry I said portrait the instructions said to lay the paper landscaped to used to computers
I guess LOL
hope I explained this right if needed I can upload a small vid and pics of it

Thanks

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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by Caesar S » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:00 pm

It's really very simple, the ShapeOko 2 text should go from left to right.

The x gantry is the single axis going from left to right (with double beams).

The y axis (there are 2 of them left and right), goes from front to back.

The x gantry rides on top of the y axis.

The z axis (where the pen is attached) goes up and down and is attached to the x axis.

Hope this helps!
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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by DRUMSZ » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:22 pm

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thanks for looking attaching a pix guess I can't explain just strange how it is doing this maybe something stupid I missed

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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by Caesar S » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:42 pm

Ah, then this is the perpendicular direction already described above.

Exchange the X axis wiring with the Y axis wiring.

But before doing that, use the UGS to move the motors and confirm that X and Y axis are reversed.

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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by WillAdams » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:42 pm

You have your X- and Y-axes switched. Probably your Y-axis is also reversed given my understanding of your problem description.

I have my SO1 wired up like that.
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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by cvoinescu » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:43 pm

You seem to have the X and Y axes confused, which would explain your problem.

In the image you posted, X moves left and right, and the X rail is the one across the machine, higher up than the other two rails, with two pieces of MakerSlide back to back. The X rail and the motor plates it's bolted on form the gantry. The X carriage moves sideways on this gantry and carries the Z (vertical) axis. There is a single X motor, on the back of the X carriage.

Y moves toward you and away from you. The Y rails are the ones that are separate, attached to the four identical end plates. The Y rails do not move. The Y carriages have a motor each, so there are two motors on the Y axis.

Negative X moves left, positive X moves right, negative Y moves toward you, positive Y moves away from you, negative Z moves down, positive Z moves up.

The result of the "Hello World" job should be oriented as you'd normally read it, left to right.
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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by DRUMSZ » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:34 pm

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aaaahhhhhhhhhh I am confused now !
i will try what you guys have said and see what happens like i said already swapped axis and it just runs into the rail had diagrams of the axis also to go by
just saying this because if this is the case all I went buy is totally wrong.....
here are some more pics if someone sees something wrong let me know

Thanks all for the help !!!

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Re: hello, world printing in portrait

Post by cvoinescu » Sun Feb 08, 2015 12:49 am

Yeah, you have X and Y backwards -- the motor labelled Y is actually the X, and the two motors labelled X are actually Y.
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