Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by Improbable Construct » Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:33 pm

I used a 75mm SHCS that I ordered from McMaster-Carr.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-socket- ... ws/=m1tz6r
They have 80mm M5 screws. They even go up to 120mm.
I am guessing that since you are using a Kress spindle that you are not in the USA.
That makes McMaster-Carr pretty much out of the picture.
But they do exist so you should be able to find them somewhere.
Shapeoko #Classified some of the bolts may be original parts.
Shapeoko 1 # ???? Stainless plates, still in the box.
Shapeoko 2 # 3926 not stock
Shapeoko 3 # 0003
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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by cvoinescu » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:27 pm

I can get you M5 x 70mm and M5 x 90mm screws. I'm in the UK, so shipping to Europe would not cost an arm and a leg.
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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by Improbable Construct » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:08 am

jubei wrote:Impressive, indeed.

Is the dxf for these motor plates available somewhere? Information is a bit scattered..

Thanks!
J
Sorry I missed this one.
It depends on what you are looking for. These motor plates are pretty much a custom one off and will only work with my setup.
If you are looking for the drawings for the v3 upgrade motor plates they are here:
http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic ... t=70#p8693
I modified these drawings to my suit my needs.

I can send you my drawings if you would like but they are probably incomplete at best and completely wrong at worst. :)
Shapeoko #Classified some of the bolts may be original parts.
Shapeoko 1 # ???? Stainless plates, still in the box.
Shapeoko 2 # 3926 not stock
Shapeoko 3 # 0003
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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by jubei » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:11 am

Great, thanks! I missed that one.

J

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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by pagercam » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:16 am

Have you run it yet, how does it compare to a stock Shapeoko???

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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by PsyKo » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:12 am

cvoinescu wrote:I can get you M5 x 70mm and M5 x 90mm screws. I'm in the UK, so shipping to Europe would not cost an arm and a leg.
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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by Improbable Construct » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:55 pm

pagercam wrote:Have you run it yet, how does it compare to a stock Shapeoko???
It is a night and day difference from a stock machine and a fairly big step up from one with the dual Y and double X upgrades.
I will see if I have time to post a video later today,
Shapeoko #Classified some of the bolts may be original parts.
Shapeoko 1 # ???? Stainless plates, still in the box.
Shapeoko 2 # 3926 not stock
Shapeoko 3 # 0003
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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by PsyKo » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:28 pm

Improbable Construct wrote:It is a night and day difference from a stock machine and a fairly big step up from one with the dual Y and double X upgrades.
I will see if I have time to post a video later today,
In your setup, what do you think contributes the best to the improvement (not including the router) ? The larger extrusion ? The open rail system ? The metal V Wheels ?
I read on another post of yours, that carbon fiber panels are only for visual style.

My next improvement is :
- full metal v wheels,
- metal spacer,
- dual X axis
- custom X axis side panel.
- custom Belt tensioners (out of 10mm aluminium plate)

I think that with this setup, it will be much better than what I have now :)
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Kress 800, Z Axis upgrade, dual Y, 600mm X&Y rails, metal spacers and V Wheels, home switches, 4th axis
Goko - Free CNC Control Software - http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic ... 380#p44380

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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by Improbable Construct » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:37 pm

I think that it is all cumulative. Each thing helps a little bit to make the whole thing better.
I seemed to have a lot of delrin V wheels that would let the bearings just fall out.
I didn't even have to press them in. So I think that the metal V wheels helped there.
The larger extrusion helps resist twit and sag so that helps.
The aluminum spindle mount made a huge difference from the HDPE mounts I made.
I used the carbon fiber because I wanted to experiment with the end plates and it was either carbon fiber or aluminum and the carbon fiber seemed cooler!

Metal spacers and the double X are a big upgrade over stock I would start there.
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Shapeoko 1 # ???? Stainless plates, still in the box.
Shapeoko 2 # 3926 not stock
Shapeoko 3 # 0003
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Re: Is this thing even a Shapeoko anymore?

Post by potatotron » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:19 pm

IC - when you build / rebuild your mill do you square up & align the frame pieces each time, or do you readjust after everything is together, or both?

Also did you get your spacers from McMaster? Are you using aluminum, stainless, etc.?

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