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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by twforeman » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:13 pm

I'm open to suggestions...

I need to come up with better questions for the Captcha. If you have any suggestions please PM them to me.

I'll look into other options also.
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by twforeman » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:25 pm

I found some auto-generating captcha code. Let's see if that helps.
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by twforeman » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:21 pm

We could also install the Confirm Account Creation module so that accounts need to be approved like the forum accounts.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by WillAdams » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:49 pm

What's involved in the request? Are we currently using e-mail validation? Seems to me that'd raise the bar a bit more.

We need to do something:

16 December 2014

(User creation log); 21:45 . . Therese34A (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:42 . . MaryellHgn (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:41 . . Ralf4145zgoeekw (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:39 . . JessieKYZbri (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:35 . . QuinnDUEulzn (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:26 . . MaryannMartindal (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:16 . . Alyce0363cl (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:16 . . EnidRileyyvybwyo (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 21:01 . . TajIQUFfuqvc (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 20:44 . . NestorPratten (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 20:08 . . BerenicRinehart (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 19:32 . . RodgerKimpton (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 18:36 . . RayfordWeatherbu (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 18:29 . . DeboraBrodzky (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 17:50 . . EulahMHVbhhlqa (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 17:41 . . VictoriEVA (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 17:32 . . MaryellOgg (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 17:26 . . ElaineBurnham (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 17:10 . . JodieBovmdnd (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 16:58 . . Janette36O (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 16:57 . . Bernard28K (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 16:54 . . MCHRodrick (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 16:48 . . Junior2677 (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
(User creation log); 16:47 . . Monty9933upxtrj (Talk | contribs | block)‎ New user account
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by Gadgetman! » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:06 pm

Disable user creation on the wiki, and require anyone who wants to have a Wiki user to PM twforeman here in the forum so that he can create it manually?

I believe there's a 5 forum post minimum before PMs are allowed?
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by WillAdams » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:53 pm

I'd liefer it wasn't dependent on a response by a single individual.

Could we start by just disallowing new users to add / change links?
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by cvoinescu » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:00 am

MediaWiki doesn't really work that way. They made the explicit decision not to implement user permissions beyond the very basics. Once you're in, you can edit anything that's not been locked down by an administrator -- that's how public wikis are supposed to work, they say. There are plugins that attempt to add more granularity to this, but I don't think what you want exists.
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by WillAdams » Wed Dec 17, 2014 1:21 am

Okay, caught up on deleting / blocking again.

We need to raise the bar higher, so that the site isn't as inviting --- is IP blocking not turned on or working, or are these people actually using/accessing this many different machines?
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by twforeman » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:26 pm

So there is no real IP blocking in mediaWiki. You can't throttle account creation (that I have found.)

I have enabled DNS based blacklist checking, but I don't know what the impact will be.

The only real solution, as far as I can tell, is to dis-allow user creation and make it so all new users need to be created by an admin. We could change the registration page on the Wiki to tell them to PM a set of people, or to send an email asking for an account, or something.

Unfortunately, public wikis are a problem for which there is no easy solution.
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Re: New wiki user issue

Post by twforeman » Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:35 pm

I have change the captcha to KeyCaptcha, we'll see how that works. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:KeyCAPTCHA
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