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Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by edwardrford » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:26 am

Hi all, I added a link to the True Value Hardware (Mastercraft) Rotary Tool to the wiki purchasing page. Although a different color and name as my Red and Blue spindles, this is the same tool. Plus, the price ($13!) is more in line than some of the other options I've seen.

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As a little back story to this spindle:
I found it on amazon originally branded as Nikko. At $30 it was a pretty good deal: Flex wand, hard case, and 100pc assortment of accessories.

Ended up the 100pc assortment was 99 sanding disks and a 'multi-purpose' bit (that couldn't cut anything) plus, the 'flex wand' had a single bearing and was pretty much worthless with all the play it had on the tip. What I found myself longing for was just the spindle. As I got closer to shipping the rewards I happened to walk into Menards to buy shipping tape and packaging paper when low and behold: They were selling the same spindle (different color, different brand) for $15! It didn't come with a flex wand or a hard case, but the 99 sanding discs remained, (those were easy enough to throw away :-)

You can see a picture of the stash I bought here: http://www.shapeoko.com/archives/429 (the check out women looked at me pretty funny when I pulled up with a cart full of 25 of these things).

To make matters even better, browsing through the Menard's flyer a few weeks later, I noticed they were on-sale! A $15 rotary tool was on sale... incredible. The asking price? $9.99. I bought 25 more and offered them as an extra line with some of the kits for an extra $15 (to cover tax and the effort of stocking them). They were gone pretty quickly.

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As you can probably guess, I was pretty bummed out after they were gone from Menards starting in mid January. I was hoping it was something they would stock so I could use the link (and the cost) on the official BoM. Although I keep my eye out whenever I go back into the store, I haven't seen them since. So, I was quite pleased when I saw them on the True Value website. If you have one locally, you can ship-to-store for free. Otherwise, as long as you're in the US, shipping will run you about $8. Putting the total around $20. Still not bad. But for $30 you can usually pickup a black and decker RTX 3 speed rotary tool from wally-world which is 2.0A. Twice as strong as the generic dremel.

Ironically, after I found the True Value deal, I started thinking that it would be nice if wal-mart sold this (because there are more wal-marts than True Values). End up they do! But it's branded different, and costs more. In fact, they sell 2 different versions:

Here for $48!: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Grip-50120-41 ... gMethod=rr
Here for $21: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Trademark-Too ... gMethod=rr

It's just crazy to me that all of these spindles come from the same factory in China, but they have different color and branding options and are sold at a HUGE range of price, for the exact same product...
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Re: Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by cpt kirk » Mon May 20, 2013 12:15 am

Thank you for this write up! Even tough the mastercraft rotery tool has been discuntinued but this write up guided me in the right direction!

Has anyone tried the rotery tool from Harbor fright $10.79 its cheap i wonder how well this may or may not work. I ordered my shapeoko last week will deff be testing this one out.

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Re: Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by WillAdams » Mon May 20, 2013 1:50 am

More discussion here:

http://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/Spindle_Options

The tool you linked is single speed and low power --- my Dad had one, and while I brought it up from his estate, I've found it pretty useless (but haven't tried mounting it in my ShapeOko). Better options from HF:

- Variable Speed Rotary Tool Kit --- http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tool ... 68696.html

- Electric Cutout Tool --- http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-c ... 42831.html --- mention here: http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic ... 534&p=4380 and here: http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic ... rbor#p3994

- 1/4" Trim Router --- http://www.harborfreight.com/1-4-quarte ... 44914.html --- mention here: http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic ... bor#p12254
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Re: Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by cpt kirk » Mon May 20, 2013 4:14 am

Thanks Will! Ur a life saver.!

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Re: Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by WillAdams » Mon May 20, 2013 1:42 pm

Maybe I was a bit hasty.

http://www.jcopro.net/2011/12/02/what-i ... nc-router/
Chicago Electric Rotary Tool - At $10.49 from Harbor Freight Tools it’s hard to not at least be curious about this little guy. It runs at 16,000 RPM and draws .7 Amps of current at 120 volts, so it’s not as powerful as any of the Dremel models listed. It seems to have no speed adjustment either. It is insanely cheap though, and comes with quite a few accessories. It has been used in a CNC router before, so apparently it’s up to the job in at least some capacity.
(unfortunately the internal link for an example of use is dead)

but I'd still be leary of it --- doesn't seem like that much of a savings and giving up speed control is a big sacrifice --- anyway, I up-dated the Spindle Options page on the wiki a bit:

http://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/Spindle_Options

hopefully we can get it filled in w/ everyone's data.
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Re: Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by Will Winder » Tue May 21, 2013 5:53 pm

cpt kirk wrote:Thank you for this write up! Even tough the mastercraft rotery tool has been discuntinued but this write up guided me in the right direction!

Has anyone tried the rotery tool from Harbor fright $10.79 its cheap i wonder how well this may or may not work. I ordered my shapeoko last week will deff be testing this one out.
I took a look at this the last time I was at harbor freight, it was one of the specials at one of their tent sales. It is comically small, I'm sure it wouldn't be suitable for us.
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Re: Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by PAPPP » Tue May 21, 2013 10:52 pm

I picked up one of the tiny blue HF rotary tools a couple years ago to mine for cheap parts and accessories. It...uh... technically works. It is direct-drive off a cheap little 9V DC motor, so it has essentially no torque and will bog down if you look at it funny. It actually works pretty well for buffing type tasks, I sometimes chuck up a finishing tool (Fine stone or felt) in it to clean up cuts from a more powerful rotary tool without switching bits, but would be totally useless as a spindle.

The larger package comes with a nice wallwart and decent assortment of bits/discs/buffing felts/etc.

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Re: Standard Generic Dremel Option

Post by JuiceBox » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:11 am

cpt kirk wrote:
Thank you for this write up! Even tough the mastercraft rotery tool has been discuntinued but this write up guided me in the right direction!

Has anyone tried the rotery tool from Harbor fright $10.79 its cheap i wonder how well this may or may not work. I ordered my shapeoko last week will deff be testing this one out.
I own this (GF got it for me thinking it'd be a great little gadget) I can stop it with my fingers if that tells you anything. I currently have it in a 'project box' to make a fan out of it. Don't buy

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