Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by jayselway » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:12 pm

halfnormal wrote:
Picengraver wrote:Tempting, Larry, really tempting. :lol:
It's time you start making money on the CO2 lasers too!
I'd be extremely cautious about buying a cheap chinese laser if you plan to use it to make money. I run a laser cutting business, Jumbie Industries, and I can tell you first hand if you are using a laser to make money, that customer service and access to parts (quickly) are absolutely critical. We own an Epilog 50w and a Kern 500w. Both purchased because of their incredible customer service. The longest one of our machines have ever been down had been 24 hours. Kern and Epilog lasers aren't cheap, but they really are worth the extra expense for customer service if you are trying to use it for a business.

I've heard plenty of horror stories from other people that own lasers that ordered lasers from china either to have them never arrive, arrive broken, arrive with the wrong parts, arrive with parts improperly installed, get stuck in customs/shipping (for months), and be almost impossible to get service and parts for.

That being said, there are some domestic companies that import chinese machines and resell and support them stateside. I believe Boss lasers does this, and there is another one based out of California (the name is escaping me right now).

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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by halfnormal » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:11 am

jayselway wrote:I'd be extremely cautious about buying a cheap chinese laser if you plan to use it to make money.
The CCL is a gateway into bigger and better equipment. The K40 G+ group https://plus.google.com/communities/118 ... 9382049502 has a lot of people who purchased the CCL, made money with it and then purchased better machines. I will not say that they are without their problems but for the price of entry, you cannot beat them.

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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by halfnormal » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:26 pm

K40 Whisperer: Control software for the stock K40 Laser controller with M2nano controller board

http://www.scorchworks.com/K40whisperer ... perer.html

K40 Whisperer is an alternative to the the Laser Draw (LaserDRW) program that comes with the cheap Chinese laser cutters available on E-Bay and Amazon. K40 Whisperer reads SVG and DXF files interprets the data and sends commands to the K40 controller to move the laser head and control the laser accordingly. K40 Whisperer does not require a USB key (dongle) to function.

K40 Whisperer is a free open source program released under the GNU General Public License (GPL).

K40 Whisperer Features:

Reads SVG files and DXF files (DXF support is limited but will be improved shortly)
Splits SVG design based on color formating (red,blue)
Blue and red paths in SVG files are interpreted as vectors (everything else is transfered as a raster image)

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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by xfredericox » Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:51 am

I've been looking into that program, but it looks like a hassle to set up.

What's your experience with it?
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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by halfnormal » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:13 am

xfredericox wrote:What's your experience with it?
I played around with it but I no longer own a K40 and have upgraded to a larger CO2 laser that uses a Rudia DSP controller. I am currently using LightBurn and have been very happy with it.

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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by xfredericox » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:37 pm

I am using it now.

The software is basic but much more user friendly than the stock crapware.
I hate it needs inkscape though. Another piece of software to learn...
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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by xfredericox » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:36 pm

For those who don't know already, I am building a custom laser cutter based off the K40.

Full writeup on my blog. Latest article here:

http://www.manmademayhem.com/?p=3295
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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by AnonymousPerson » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:32 pm

The Layzor looks to be coming along really well.

Out of curiosity, is the window tinting film you used something that could be hit by the laser and potentially catch fire too easily?
Shapeoko 3 #516

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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by xfredericox » Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:51 pm

It's PET so it doesn't catch on fire, it just melts. It's also supposed to be safe. Vinyl and PVC for instance wouldn't be ;-)
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Re: Cheap Chinese Lasers (CCL)

Post by einar » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:26 am

Hi,
I'm told this laser head is meant to work with the cheap Chinese CNC engravers that are bundled with the green laser goggles:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/500mw-L ... 01207.html

If anyone has some idea how to mount it to the X-axis and how to feed it power from attached controller, please post.
thanks,
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