Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

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What is your favorite ShapeOko spindle option?

Rotary Tool - generic (specify)
5
4%
Rotary Tool - brand-name, e.g. Dremel 200 or 4000 (specify)
9
7%
Cut-out Tool - e.g., Dewalt DW660 (specify)
24
19%
Compact Router - e.g., Dewalt DWP611 (specify)
29
23%
Trim Router (specify)
12
10%
Carving Tool (specify)
1
1%
DC Spindle (specify)
32
26%
Palm Router - e.g., Bosch Colt (specify)
4
3%
Mini Spindle (specify)
8
6%
 
Total votes: 124

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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by cvoinescu » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:27 pm

We have to put up with the fact that a cheap, powerful spindle isn't available in Europe. The Makita RT0700C (e.g. RT0700CX4) is "only" £109 in the UK, that's just under $175, shipping and VAT included.
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by WillAdams » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:31 pm

cvoinescu wrote:We have to put up with the fact that a cheap, powerful spindle isn't available in Europe. The Makita RT0700C (e.g. RT0700CX4) is "only" £109 in the UK, that's just under $175, shipping and VAT included.
Ouch. I'm surprised that Proxxon doesn't have something in this space --- for a long while, I was considering getting their micro router --- and now that I look again it's not only bulky, but also only 130 Watts (hmm, that makes a Stew Mac Dremel router base a lot more attractive: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Speci ... _Base.html )

I guess there's no equivalent to Harbor Freight over there?

I've often heard that the U.S. was much more into hobby-level D.I.Y. and woodworking than Europe / England, (there was one thread which posited higher levels of home ownership in the U.S. and many homes being made of wood and minor home improvement projects being an entré into woodworking) but it never ceases to surprise and puzzle me when something that indicates it comes up --- especially since I just got my Christmas Hammacher-Schlemmer catalog and that always evokes mentions of their having once been a premier importer of fine woodworking tools from Sheffield England.
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by cvoinescu » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:58 pm

Will, you are very right, and even then Britain is much more DIY-oriented than many other countries in Europe. That said, Germany is still a bastion of model-building and related hobbies and crafts -- home of Proxxon and Kress, after all. Speaking of Proxxon, they have several spindle offerings, but they are either very small (the 50 W Micromot series -- a well-made skinny mini-Dremel, very useful when building little wooden train stations and cuckoo clocks) or more expensive and still not terribly powerful (the IB series). Also, there have been several reports here of the IB/E dying after milling aluminum for a brief period of time.

The Kress spindles are excellent, but expensive. The Makita RT0700C is a good compromise (I have one in my hands now, but I have yet to run a job with it).

By the way, the 700 W, aluminum body Makita RT0700C weighs about 1420 g without the base and power cord, so not bad for a dual-X Shapeoko, and just a little more than the 600 W, plastic body DeWalt DW660 at about 1180 g. Unlike the DeWalt, the Makita has an electronic speed control with soft-start. The only drawbacks I can think of are the price (about double) and the fact that an 1/8" collet is not available (it comes with 6 mm and 8 mm in continental Europe, and 1/4" and 3/8" in the UK).

If anyone knows where I could find an 1/8" collet for the Makita, please let me know!
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by WillAdams » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:03 pm

Will one of the 1/4" -- 1/8" reducers work?

I bought one from MLCS: http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite ... rings.html

but am lusting after the nicer one from Elair Corp.: http://www.elairecorp.com/colletadapter.html

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this whole matter of collets and adapters....

William
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by cvoinescu » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:50 pm

I think those will work. I've ordered one already, this one. They are not ideal, though -- I'd like a "native" 1/8" collet for the Makita. I think I just found the part number for it -- 763626-6 -- so now I need to find someone who sells it and can ship it to the UK.
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by Improbable Construct » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:20 pm

Looks like that part number will not work for the RT0700C
This is from an Amazon review:
This review is from: Makita 763626-6 Collet Cone, 1/8-Inch (Tools & Home Improvement)
I'm looking for a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter for my Makita 1-1/4HP router (RT0700C). Got this collet to see if it would fit but the outer diameter is too small. Collet is well made otherwise!
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by cvoinescu » Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:41 am

Oh well. Thanks.
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by WillAdams » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:14 am

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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by cvoinescu » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:21 am

I was wondering about that one, because it seems to be everywhere. I'll give it a try.
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Re: Vote for your favorite ShapeOko spindle solution!

Post by samc99us » Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:29 pm

Does anyone have a link to a good air cooled 0.8 KW spindle? My opinion deduced from other users is the 1.5 KW variety is a bit on the heavy side for this machine and it's available power not at all required. I had a tough time finding one on ebay this morning.

Also, do the 6mm (0.236in) collets work with 1/4" bits?
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