Australia Expansion pricing

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stuarttaylor00
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Australia Expansion pricing

Post by stuarttaylor00 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:31 am

check this out... That shipping is nuts!


*** EDIT *** Not having a whinge but looking for anyone else in Aus to share the postage costs with for a multiple buy

Convert that to Australian Dollars:

Kit price = $975
Shipping = $1508
Total = $2483

damn that hurts... especially considering a 1000mm x-carve kit with heaps of accessories and a dewalt 611 only costs US$461 to ship to the same address!

If there are any Aussies on here looking for the XXL expansion packs and wants to do a share buy, please let me know (each kit is +$400 shipping on top of the $1081)
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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by AnonymousPerson » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:50 am

Yeah, UK shipping isn't much better.

I think I'll just make my own instead. :)
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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by stuarttaylor00 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:06 am

Have you found any decent extrusion to use? It's a shame, I really like the fact the official expansion just bolts on, and its a really clean, very strong extrusion. And I really want to support Carbide3D

I just can't justify paying US$1000+ for shipping... crazytown
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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by AnonymousPerson » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:00 am

The rough kind of idea I've been having, is to get some (say) 100mm x 100mm box section structural steel, then attach a (machined) v-profile to that for wheels/bearings to travel along.

The box section structural steel should be well and truly strong enough to not deform over long-ish sections, and the v-profile should provide the accuracy.

Of course, this is going to take some reading, thinking about, and trial+effort. (etc)

Even with a few iterations, it's unlikely to cost anywhere near the current XXL + shipping cost.
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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by stuarttaylor00 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:54 pm

Hmm, it's so hard to know what the best way to go is... I was thinking 100x50x 2mm box section steel for the 2 stationary axis, maybe with aluminium v rail bolted to it, and some Aluminium extrusion for the gantry, I don't know how belts would go driving a big gantry like that made out of steel.

Would it be possible to join the 3 original extrusions together to make a long beam? You'd have to be pretty accurate, but it's not a crazy idea


Or I could just move to the U.S to save on shipping...
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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by DRobs86 » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:47 pm

What is eating your lunch on shipping cost is that huge wasteboard. How much is domestic shipping for it? If you coud make your own wasteboard for it, you could ship it all to me in the US, let me keep the wasteboard and forward the rails and what not to you for a much lower overall cost. We could probably work something out on that, but truth be told if you were going to make your own wasteboard anyway you could just see if carbide 3d would sell and ship you an expansion pack cheaper without a wasteboard.

On the note of steel tube... I have made a large machine out of this. Steel tube can have some warp and twist, but for the most part American standards for steel tube leave it with pretty similar tolerances to makerslide and similar aluminum extrusions. Generally speaking and all else held equal, steel is about 2.5 to 3 times more resistant to flex than aluminum. A 100 by 100mm tube, even with a 2mm thickness, is a very stout rail at 1000mm length or thereabout. At that length though, do watch for a piece that has warp from the steel mill.

Look up elastic beam equations for specifics onnrail deflection.

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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by AnonymousPerson » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:26 pm

Pricing for 100x100mm box mild steel, 3mm wall thickness, at 1.5m lengths, isn't unreasonable:

https://www.themetalstore.co.uk/product ... ection-3mm

£28.37 each (inc tax). Free delivery too.
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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by apspurgeon » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:41 am

I used youshop.co.nz for mine, its actually a singapore post service and freight forwards to your home from a US, UK or China address. Very reasonable prices. Not sure if there is an Aust one but my whole SO3 cost $300 which I was happy with

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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by stuarttaylor00 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:22 pm

just a quick update, I contacted Carbide3D sales to ask about leaving the wasteboard out. Their response was that the shipping calculator has been having issues, but it has now been rectified.

Updated shipping cost to Australia for the XXL expansion was US$336, which is far more realistic.

Again, excellent service from these guys. If you ever have any query just flick them an email, they are 100% behind their product
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Re: Australia Expansion pricing

Post by AnonymousPerson » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:57 pm

stuarttaylor00 wrote:just a quick update, I contacted Carbide3D sales to ask about leaving the wasteboard out. Their response was that the shipping calculator has been having issues, but it has now been rectified.

Updated shipping cost to Australia for the XXL expansion was US$336, which is far more realistic.

Again, excellent service from these guys. If you ever have any query just flick them an email, they are 100% behind their product
Thanks for pointing this out. Wish they'd told me that. They just said they'd look into options, and I didn't hear back from them. ;)

Cheapest pricing estimate to the UK is now:
FedEx International Economy (4 business days) $ 241.62
That's a lot better. :)
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