Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
Hey everyone.
So I've been doing a bunch of cutting on my SO3 and I think there is something wrong with my Z-axis. It's simply not smooth and after some use it doesn't move all the way up in the (+) direction; that is, it doesn't hit the stops. If I lift hard on the motor mount/z-axis plate while the machine is on, I can "pop" it back into place and jog it up and down through the entire range a couple of times. But then after a while it just does the same thing. It will never hit my z-axis limit switch either.
With the power off, I move it by hand up and down and feel like there is a notch or flat spot in the V-groove wheels because it does not move up and down smoothly in a continuous manner. Does that make sense? It's like it has two smooth ranges and has a point at which it gets enough resistance to tell the machine that it's hit a limit. But it's no where near that limit.
Anybody else experience this? Is it the V-rails? The wheels too tight with the eccentric screws? Not sure where to start.
Thanks,
Peter
So I've been doing a bunch of cutting on my SO3 and I think there is something wrong with my Z-axis. It's simply not smooth and after some use it doesn't move all the way up in the (+) direction; that is, it doesn't hit the stops. If I lift hard on the motor mount/z-axis plate while the machine is on, I can "pop" it back into place and jog it up and down through the entire range a couple of times. But then after a while it just does the same thing. It will never hit my z-axis limit switch either.
With the power off, I move it by hand up and down and feel like there is a notch or flat spot in the V-groove wheels because it does not move up and down smoothly in a continuous manner. Does that make sense? It's like it has two smooth ranges and has a point at which it gets enough resistance to tell the machine that it's hit a limit. But it's no where near that limit.
Anybody else experience this? Is it the V-rails? The wheels too tight with the eccentric screws? Not sure where to start.
Thanks,
Peter
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Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
Too tight eccentrics seems possible. I'd also make certain the belt tension is taut enough.
Another thing to look into is whether or no the washers are the same thickness --- there've been some discussions of this causing problems.
Post a video or check in w/ support@carbide3d.com
William
Another thing to look into is whether or no the washers are the same thickness --- there've been some discussions of this causing problems.
Post a video or check in w/ support@carbide3d.com
William
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Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
Thanks William,
yeah checked and re-tightened the belt, but that's not helping. There is a definite "thunk" at a certain point in the travel. Even after first assembly, the up and down movement was super tight. Is yours that tight? or does it easily move up and down by hand, like butter?
Peter
yeah checked and re-tightened the belt, but that's not helping. There is a definite "thunk" at a certain point in the travel. Even after first assembly, the up and down movement was super tight. Is yours that tight? or does it easily move up and down by hand, like butter?
Peter
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Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
Mine moves up and down smoothly, and if memory serves, the assembly instructions indicate it should be so.
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Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
I had a similar issue with mine do to my initial assembly tightening The Eccentric nuts 180 degrees. DO NOT do this.
I believe they need to be tightened just until the V wheel will not slip. I believe it caused a temporary flat spot in the plastic which returns to round after proper adjustment. Mine would hit what felt like "a nick or flat spot" equivalent to the circumference of the V wheel.
I believe they need to be tightened just until the V wheel will not slip. I believe it caused a temporary flat spot in the plastic which returns to round after proper adjustment. Mine would hit what felt like "a nick or flat spot" equivalent to the circumference of the V wheel.
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Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
FWIW, I ran into the same issue a while back. I had over-tightened my v-wheels in an attempt to get rid of some z-plate flex. I left it like that over night and flat-spotted the wheels. I loosened them back up and it appeared the wheels sprang back a little, but even today I have a little thud. Not saying this is your issue, just rang a bell for me. Had you recently tightened the wheels up?
Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
OMG. That is definitely my problem. I tightened the cr*p out of the nuts to get them 180 degrees as per the instructions. I guarantee they have a flat spot in them. But you say they will bounce back? If not, do I have to buy new V-wheels? if so, how expensive is that?
Thanks,
Peter
Thanks,
Peter
Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
You might also want to check your Z-Rails to make sure they are parallel to each other and perpendicular to the X-Axis. From your description it sounds like the rails could be closer together at the top than at the bottom. Just a thought.
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Re: Z-axis not smooth, feels notched at a point.
Look down the top of your Carriage and see if there are any bolts hitting each other. I had this same notch, and that's what it was. I just filed a couple of millimetres off one of them so they passed without hitting.
I also waay overtightened my V wheels the first time, and ran it like that for a long time. But it didn't cause any long-term damage
I also waay overtightened my V wheels the first time, and ran it like that for a long time. But it didn't cause any long-term damage
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