DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by WillAdams » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:26 am

Unless the text description specified milled rather than cast, I wouldn't see it as a concern --- pretty typical to show a manufacturing example in a photo and never get around to updating it.
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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by danimal » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:25 am

Audiophyle wrote:First cut with Makita and doing a Circle/Diamond/Square test. The difference in precision and power is significant, and that is with a collet adapter running an 1/8" bit in the 1/4" collet.

Shot a quick video to show how effortlessly it cuts through acrylic. This was with a 16in/min feed, 0.08" step down, and the Makita is running at its slowest setting. Still need to experiment with feed & spindle speeds, and I think I can speed up both quite a bit.
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I bought the same mount from goodluckbuy.com for $21 but it did not come with any hardware, just the mount but it also had free shipping. It seems to be stout enough to me, and it holds the makita really tight. Only time will tell if it holds up, but with how tough that mount is built, I am certain that it will do just fine.

I think that you could double your feed speeds and be just fine. I run min at about 33 IPM with no problems. The makita doesn't even sound like it is trying.
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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by twforeman » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:18 am

zerblatt007 wrote: Hmm, I actually have collets for 1/4" and 8mm (5/16" ?) for the Kress, but so far have not got the guts to use them.. :?
Couldn't there be a danger of ripping the whole Shapeoko apart or at least start some serious vibrations?
Nope, I run 1/4" router bits at 60 in/min and a .060" deep pass through maple with no issues.

I also have a 1/2" router bit with a 1/4" shank that I use to bore holes with. No issues there. The ShapeOko is plenty stout.
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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by Audiophyle » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:02 am

danimal wrote: I bought the same mount from goodluckbuy.com for $21 but it did not come with any hardware, just the mount but it also had free shipping. It seems to be stout enough to me, and it holds the makita really tight. Only time will tell if it holds up, but with how tough that mount is built, I am certain that it will do just fine.

I think that you could double your feed speeds and be just fine. I run min at about 33 IPM with no problems. The makita doesn't even sound like it is trying.
I wasnt expecting any hardware since their brief description said nothing other than the size & that it was a mount. It is very stout, I cannot see it failing anytime.

I figured I could run it a lot faster, the settings I used were from the wiki & geared around the dremel-like tool.
Im new to milling so thought I should start out slow, would love to see a thread dedicated specifically to the Makita router option.
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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by Targus » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:57 am

Mounting Bracket for my Makita. Milled out of half inch HDPE. The semicircular features on the side is for a vacuum attachment. You can download the mounting bracket file at https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B01dPF ... sp=sharing.

A few more pictures and a video on my other thread ... http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2810.

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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by wz9v » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:04 pm

Is the DWP-611 the same diameter as the Makita?
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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by Simon P » Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:32 am

wz9v wrote:Is the DWP-611 the same diameter as the Makita?
No, from measuring mine, the diameter on the Dewalt is 69mm and, from looking at the SVG files that targus has shared for his Makita, the diameter of the Makita appears to be ~64mm.

Note that if you open targus' SVG file in Inkscape it will not be scaled correctly - it will appear small - because Inkscape assumes it is rendered at 90dpi whereas targus created the SVG in illustrator which uses 72dpi.
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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by Audiophyle » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:00 pm

The Makita is 65mm.
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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by eefits » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:37 pm

This post has been quiet for a while. Anyone has any update?

As for me. I picked up this post while trying to decide between the DWP611 and Makita RT0700CX like anyone else in this post. I originally brought a Mikita because it is lighter, cheaper and the can is smaller (65mm) and I also like the fact that the shaft has 2 slot to allow tighten it using 2 wrenches. That is how I used to tighten my other CNC's spindle (like the quite spindle). How ever I am having trouble finding a quality 1/8 inch collet. I did further research and did come across Elaire Corp and look closely at the collet. After close examination I noticed the Makita only clamming at one side(bottom) at the collet and at the other end is a pass thru. This mean it is only grabbing a very small area of the bit. Upon realized that I do more research for the DWP611 and decided to buy the DWP611 and take a look. The collet is totally different design and it is clamming both end (top and bottom). After searching I found out I can get a collet similar to ER20 for the DWP611. With that I was sold. I am going to return the Makita and keeping the Dewalt. And I am going to order the Collet that is similar to ER20. I will not go anything smaller to 1/8" for this router so I don't know how much gain (lesser TIR) do I get for using the Dewalt instead of Makita. Anyone have similar experience?

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Re: DEWALT DWP611 VS MAKITA RT0700CX

Post by balazar » Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:10 am

So why are aftermarket collets so popular with shapeoko fans? Can someone please explain why so many are interested in buying aftermarket collets of the same size that came with their routers? Is runout really that bad? I have been changing things from the start to improve rigidity, but I never considered the runout of the collet to be any kind of substantial improvement in accuracy. Are people getting good results from the aftermarket collets compared to stock?

This question is in context to DWP611 and RT0700CX and the collets available for them.
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