Recommendation: Spindle solutions available in europe?

med
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Recommendation: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by med » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:46 pm

Hej,

what Spindle solutions for the shapeoko2 or eshapeoko do you know are available in europe? Do you have recommendations for om the EU sold spindles?
The DeWalt and Bosch Colt Spindle solutions are only available in the US. Taxes and import make them rather expensive.

Summary:
Makita RT0700C ROUTER (ca. 140€) - not continued by makita

Bosch GFK600 600W 1.5kg (ca. 170€) <-- Known as Bosch Colt in North America

Dewalt D26200 900W 1.9kg
Dewalt DW670 600W 1.9kg

Kress 1050 FME 1050W 1.7kg (ca. 170€)
Kress 800 FME 800W 1.4kg

Makita 3703 350W 1.5kg
Makita RT0700C 710W 1.8kg

Proxxon FBS240 100W 450g
Proxxon BFW 40/E 250W 4kg

Cheers mat
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Re: Recommendatio: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by WillAdams » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:47 pm

I think it'd be great to have more spindle options --- in setting up the table and making it sortable, my idea was that we'd be able to easily add and compare different spindles.

I think it's important that the entry be made by a person actually using the spindle though, preferrably w/ a supporting link to a vendor or manufacturer --- searching on the model you suggested my first link was to: http://www.makitatools.com/en-us/Module ... me=RT0700C which says it's been discontinued.
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Re: Recommendatio: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by kjetilhansen » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:52 pm

WillAdams wrote:I think it'd be great to have more spindle options --- in setting up the table and making it sortable, my idea was that we'd be able to easily add and compare different spindles.

That would be great! I am also looking for a good spindle and I am lost in the world of spindles :p

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Re: Recommendatio: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by WillAdams » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:56 pm

Just for the record, the spindle page on the wiki is hidden away under upgrades: http://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/Spindle_Options

I worry that maybe that's too far down? It's also linked to from the Upgrades page --- is there some other place it'd make sense to link it from?
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Re: Recommendatio: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by cvoinescu » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:28 pm

The Bosch Colt is called GKF600 in Europe, as far as I know.
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Re: Recommendatio: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by med » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:39 am

@cvoinescu Are you sure, because in europe it goes for around 200$ meanwhile in the US you can find it for 60-80$

@others maybe we can keep this thread only related to spindles and start a separate thread for the discussion: how to organize the gathered informations?

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Re: Recommendatio: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by RobCee » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:50 am

In Europe you have these options, that I can think of easily:

Bosch GFK600 600W 1.5kg <-- Known as Bosch Colt in North America

Dewalt D26200 900W 1.9kg
Dewalt DW670 600W 1.9kg

Kress 1050 FME 1050W 1.7kg
Kress 800 FME 800W 1.4kg

Makita 3703 350W 1.5kg
Makita RT0700C 710W 1.8kg

Proxxon FBS240 100W 450g
Proxxon BFW 40/E 250W 4kg

AC or DC Chinese CNC Spindles are also available from eBay.

Do remember that the power numbers in all of these 'consumer' products are peak, not usable power. This means that the usable power of these products will be around 1/2 the specified peak power rating. It doesn't matter much in the real world, but be careful if you compare them to industrial CNC spindles, where they will usually quote the usable power rating not the peak.

From all of these, the ones that seem to be found on the build your own CNC sites are the Kress and they seem to be similarly priced to the others at around £200 (in the UK).
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Re: Recommendatio: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by RobCee » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:54 am

@Med - Unfortunately we are unable to buy lots of things in Europe at the great low prices (sometimes) available in North America!
The GFK600 does come with a lot of extra parts (bases, dust extraction, fancy case) that are completely useless when using it for CNC. It probably doesn't justify the price difference, but they make it comparable with most of the other laminate trimmers on the market over here.
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Re: Recommendation: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by RobCee » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:38 pm

Will is correct that the Makita RT0700C is discontinued in North America but is currently still available in Europe.
The replacement North American model is the RT0701C.
Here is the spec for the new one:

Makita RT0701C 900W 1.8kg ($99)

I only wish we could buy these things for the prices you guys pay!!
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Re: Recommendation: Spindle solutions available in europe?

Post by med » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:26 pm

How would you decide, especially if you plan to mill beech/oak with a thickness of max. 50mm on a regular basis?

Makita RT0700C ROUTER (ca. 140€) + Mount 20€ = 160€
Bosch GFK600 600W 1.5kg (ca. 170€) + 1/4" Collet 20€ + Mount 20€ = 210 €
Kress 1050 FME 1050W 1.7kg (ca. 150€) + 1/4" Collet 20€ + Mount 20€ = 190 €

Do you know any recommendable spindle alternatives from china or somewhere else?

@RobCee ^you are right, to me those prices in the US for Makita/GFK or Dewalt seem just insane to me - easy affordable high power builds^^

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