Chicago Electric Router

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Chicago Electric Router

Post by Colecago » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:45 pm

I saw someone was using this
http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-c ... 42831.html
I don't remember who it was though

I just wondered how well it worked, and how it compares to a dremel. All I have is a dremel, I'm trying to keep it cheap but I've heard that dremels aren't well suited for this as they do speed (really voltage) control and cutout tools usually implement torque (current) control are meant for more lateral movements.

Is this tool going to be better than my dremel or should I just hold out using my dremel until I can buy the DW660. I'm trying to be cheap, but to a point.
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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by zimmer62 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:56 pm

A friend of mine is using a chicago electric 1/4" check orange trim router on his home built CNC and he's pretty happy with it. I opted for the DW660, as I figured it would be worth it in time alone to get a head start on those brackets that were already posted.

I ended up making my own bracket design, but it was nice to see someones design first.

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Chicago Electric Router

Post by Will Winder » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:42 pm

zimmer62 wrote:A friend of mine is using a chicago electric 1/4" check orange trim router on his home built CNC and he's pretty happy with it.
I have one of those trim routers (for routing by hand). Considering you can get one for $20-25 it is surprisingly nice. Also its body is cylindrical so it should be easy to mount. Kind of heavy for a ShapeOko though...

I took a quick picture to show how small it is, barely larger than my dremel. The chucks are approximately lined up in this shot.

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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by Colecago » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:07 pm

Thanks. I think I might spend the extra money on the Dewalt, but not really sure. No one around here has it so I'd have to order it online whereas I could go pick up the Chicago Electric tool...

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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by WillAdams » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:10 pm

I've still been debating upgrading from my Dremel 4000 --- while I'd like to get a DW660, it's a special order 'round here, 'cause no one has it in stock.

Presumably, I could just drop by Harbor Freight and grab either an ``Electric Cutout Tool'' or ``1/4" Trim Router'' --- but I'm somewhat confused by the specifications. Ostensibly the latter is 400 Watts, but the amp rating of 2.4 amps would indicate 288 Watts (@120 Volts), which makes it significantly less powerful than the former at 420 Watts (which is confirmed by 3.5 amps * 120 Volts). I'm leaning towards the latter, 'cause of the easier mounting as demonstrated by crashn_burn in http://www.shapeoko.com/forum/viewtopic ... 24&p=13797 but the power discrepancy makes it seem not worth the effort since my Dremel 4000 is 192 Watts.

Would 288 Watts be worth it? Is there some explanation for how it could actually be 400 Watts?

Did come across one review w/ an interesting suggestion: http://www.benchtopwoodworkingtools.com ... er-router/
There have been some discussion of the router getting hot while using it, so here is what I did when I first used it. With no load and without a bit installed I ran the router for 5 minutes then shut it down and let it cool. Then I ran it another 5 minutes the same way. I did this 5 times before using the router. I believe that set the brushes to the commutator for a better contact which would eliminate the heat problem, anyway mine gets a little warm but not hot.
Does that seem reasonable or a waste of time / electricity?
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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by cvoinescu » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:00 pm

2.4 A may be a typo, because 3.4 A means pretty much exactly 400 W.
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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by WillAdams » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:54 pm

cvoinescu wrote:2.4 A may be a typo, because 3.4 A means pretty much exactly 400 W.
Brilliant! That settles it, definitely 1/4" Trim Router.

Now I just need to decide the order of my purchases --- upgrade spindle, or buy a hot-end and motor to try 3D printing....
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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by veng1 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:29 am

Harbor Freight also has their knock off of a Dewalt 660. 1/8" and 1/4" collets included, 3.5A for what that's worth.

http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-c ... 42831.html

I have one of these running and a Dewalt660 not yet running. The Dewalt is better looking the HF knock off is $21.

It will fit in the standard mounts using pipe hanger strap if you work at it. I'm happy with it but expect I'll be happier with the Dewalt. This will stay on my small mill.

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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by WillAdams » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:29 am

Well, I broke down and picked up both --- worst case is I use the cut out tool until the 1/4--1/8" adapter I ordered arrives.

The Cut Out tool is larger and more cylindrical than I was expecting --- hopefully will mount easily tomorrow --- will have to work out dust collection though....
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Re: Chicago Electric Router

Post by WillAdams » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:52 pm

Still puzzling out dust collection, but am leaning towards the trim router instead of the cut out tool:

- trim router has integrated fan --- the cut out tool gets hot around the collet running for just 5 minutes
- cylindrical area of the trim router is longer --- I believe it'll be more stable than the cut out tool
- the trim router seems more compact and has the switch in a more convenient position
- the trim router is black and red, so matches my machine's colours
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