best tool for uk builds

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best tool for uk builds

Post by nitromann14 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:14 am

was looking at a dw660 but found out its a usa 120v machine so i cant ue it over here on 240v .

what is the best machine to use in the uk ??

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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by Georgei » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:11 am

The model numbers are different here in UK.

Have a look for the D26200 or the smaller new DW670.

The Bosch alternative is the GKF600.

In my machine I am using a Bosch POF500 which you can find cheap second hand on e-bay.

It hasn't got speed controller but I am using an external one bought on e-bay for £2 and works really nice with no problems.

Have in mind that all the above are noisy and you will need ear defenders when working with them.


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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by bengtec » Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:56 pm

the makita rt0700 http://www.toolstop.co.uk/makita-rt0700 ... 40v-p63809 seems to be popular, and recently i started considering a kress 1050 (5k-25k rpm version) http://www.sorotec.de/shop/Spindle-Moto ... -230V.html as it has a wide range of collets available. the kress is a little more to start with, but if you add up the parts/shipping to get a 1/4" elaire collet for the makita shipped here from the US as well as buying the router they come out to about the same, I'm yet to decide.
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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by cvoinescu » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:08 pm

The Makita RT0700C is intended as a laminate trimmer (a small router). The Kress 800 and 1050 FME-1 are intended as a spindles, so I would say they are likely to be better suited than the Makita RT0700C. That said, the Makita is a very solid choice too.
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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by WillAdams » Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:32 pm

Marked out a sub-section on the wiki: http://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/ ... ons#Europe

If I had the choice, price not being a consideration, I'd take a Kress over a Makita:

- narrower shape, moves endmill closer to gantry to reduce lever effects
- no need to order a separate collet
- spindles are rated in working horsepower as opposed to peak

That said, here in the States it was much cheaper to get a Makita than a Kress, even after I added in the Elaire Corp. collet.

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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by nitromann14 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:58 pm

just managed to pick up a cheap Bosch POF500 on ebay for £30 so i think ill use that for a while ..i have spoken to the guys at inventables and i can get the spindle upgrade kit from them if i want to later on ..

george ..what do you think of the bosch and how it cuts etc ..any advice you can give on speed to run at etc .

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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by Georgei » Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:27 pm

The POF500 has only one speed that is around 2700rpm (high for my liking).

So I bought from e-bay a very cheep speed controller like this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustable-Vo ... 566d4cf702)

It works extremely well with the pof500 and gives me a speed from 13800 to 27000rpm.

Usually I use the lower speed setting at around 13800 rpm (it is more quiet). If I see the cutter strangles I go a little higher.

But up to now I haven't gone more than half the speed. Also, even though that it runs in lower rpm I do not have any heating issues even after 3 continues hours of running.

For 3mm cutters (or 1/8") you will an adaptor (Have a look at e-bay). The available collets for the POF500 from Bosch are 1/4" , 6mm, and 8mm.

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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by agibson » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:26 am

I don't suppose anyone has any experience of this trim router:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Electric-Trimme ... 270&sr=1-5
http://www.amazon.co.uk/100365C-Electri ... B00VI70FR2

It looks very similar to the makita (I think even the font may be a copy?), is it worth a try?

I'll be upgrading from a dremel copy, so no idea what to look for spec wise?

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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by WillAdams » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:53 am

Those are interesting. Look something like the plastic body of a Grizzle trim router which comes in two versions, one plastic body, the other metal.

While a step up from a Dremel / rotary tool, they'd probably be along the lines of a DW660, except w/ built-in speed control.

We discuss spindle specs on the wiki --- did you see this?

http://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/index.php/Spindle_Options
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Re: best tool for uk builds

Post by nitromann14 » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:35 am

ok so based on advice from you all i have got a Bosch POF500 router .im sure this will be fine to start with .

also ordered a speed controller to run it on so i can lower the speed if i need to ,yes i know i could have spent ore money on all this but the cost outways the benefits to start with so im happy so far

just got to wait until i get my invitation to order my mechanical e-shapeoko kit from ASL and then i can start building ..

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