Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

AnonymousPerson
Posts: 758
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: 3753 Cruithne

Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by AnonymousPerson » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:07 pm

Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill / a bad idea?

At present I'm cutting wood / acrylic / ceramic (planning on trying out aluminium and other metals in the near future). Getting pretty sick of how long it takes for my 1/8" Dremel knockoff to face and rough stuff. ;)

So looking at options. Many of the routers (DeWalt, Makita, Kress, etc) available here in the UK are well over £100. But, there are a few 1/2" Silverline plunge routers on Amazon.co.uk which are much cheaper. eg:
Silverline is one of those brands that seems to sell everything, with the quality of their stuff being from very good to total crap. (their purchasing group is probably an unusual place to work...)

Any idea if one of these would work ok on an S3? I'm aware I'll have to make a special mount for it. That's no problem at all.

Not needing precision work here, more for roughing/facing stuff, + experimenting/learning more about CNC-ing things in general. The '1/2"' bit is what's drawing me, as that seems to open up a lot of options for end mills and various other bits.

Thoughts?
Last edited by AnonymousPerson on Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:37 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Shapeoko 3 #516

cvoinescu
Posts: 4442
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:50 pm
Location: Camberley, UK
Contact:

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by cvoinescu » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:23 pm

Well, fisrt of all, Silverline is a badge-engineered lowest-of-low-end brand, so you get what you pay for. You may get lucky, because some products are exactly the same as slightly more expensive stuff, such as store-brand tools. Personally, I would watch for a deal on the Makita RT0700C, or maybe a Bosch palm router if it's significantly cheaper (the Makita is better, IMO). The European version of the DeWalt DWP611 is indeed very expensive.

Secondly, those router bodies you found do weigh 2-4 kg even if you remove the plunge bases, so they're way too heavy and way too big for a Shapeoko -- even a Shapeoko 3. You'd be surprised how tough and heavy-duty an 1/4" endmill is (especially compared to the 1/8" bits most people use).
Proud owner of ShapeOko #709, eShapeOko #0, and of store.amberspyglass.co.uk

WillAdams
Posts: 8618
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:11 pm
Location: Pennsylvania --- south of the Turnpike, East of US-15
Contact:

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by WillAdams » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:25 pm

That's a lot of weight, and a lot of potential torque.

Can't you find a Makita RT0700?

Or, get a Kress spindle instead?
Shapeoko 3XL #0006 w/ Carbide Compact Router w/0.125″ and ¼″ Carbide 3D precision collets

cvoinescu
Posts: 4442
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:50 pm
Location: Camberley, UK
Contact:

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by cvoinescu » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:30 pm

Oh yes, forgot about the Kress. That's a very good choice.
Proud owner of ShapeOko #709, eShapeOko #0, and of store.amberspyglass.co.uk

AnonymousPerson
Posts: 758
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: 3753 Cruithne

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by AnonymousPerson » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:34 pm

WillAdams wrote:That's a lot of weight, and a lot of potential torque.

Can't you find a Makita RT0700?

Or, get a Kress spindle instead?
Gotcha. Was just looking for cheap options first. ;)

The Makita RT0700 seems to be just above £100. So, spending the extra £30 or so for a Kress motor (they're all about the same price) is likely a better approach.
Shapeoko 3 #516

AnonymousPerson
Posts: 758
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: 3753 Cruithne

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by AnonymousPerson » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:41 pm

This "Bosch POF 1200 AE Router" seems half the price of the Kress's.

Lots of positive reviews for it on Amazon, giving the impression it's well made. Hmmm...
Shapeoko 3 #516

AnonymousPerson
Posts: 758
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: 3753 Cruithne

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by AnonymousPerson » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:42 pm

cvoinescu wrote:Secondly, those router bodies you found do weigh 2-4 kg even if you remove the plunge bases, so they're way too heavy and way too big for a Shapeoko -- even a Shapeoko 3. You'd be surprised how tough and heavy-duty an 1/4" endmill is (especially compared to the 1/8" bits most people use).
Thanks. Was kind of thinking a lot of the weight could be removed (one way or another - as long as the electronics / mechanicals aren't affected). ;)
Shapeoko 3 #516

WillAdams
Posts: 8618
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:11 pm
Location: Pennsylvania --- south of the Turnpike, East of US-15
Contact:

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by WillAdams » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:03 pm

AnonymousPerson wrote:This "Bosch POF 1200 AE Router" seems half the price of the Kress's.
Yes, but

- large awkward shape (greater diameter shifts the endmill out and increases lever effects)
- you'll need to source a collet or adapter if you want to use sizes other than 1/4" or 6 or 8mm
- heavy
Shapeoko 3XL #0006 w/ Carbide Compact Router w/0.125″ and ¼″ Carbide 3D precision collets

AnonymousPerson
Posts: 758
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:16 pm
Location: 3753 Cruithne

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by AnonymousPerson » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:13 pm

k, Kress it is then. Thanks guys. :)
Shapeoko 3 #516

jvin248
Posts: 6
Joined: Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:02 am

Re: Is a 1/2" Plunge Router overkill?

Post by jvin248 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:13 pm

Just adding another option ...

I picked up a 1/4inch trim router at HF for $30 to start with on my SO3. It seems plenty powerful enough for now, maybe later upgrading to "1/2" inch something but I have a learning curve of possible motor burning ahead so this works for now. If you are using an 1/8inch 'dremel' then this would be a huge improvement.
I used a 2inch sched 40 pipe, slit into a "C", and sanded a little thinner to fit the trim router and stock SO3 clamp.

http://www.harborfreight.com/1-4-quarte ... 44914.html

Post Reply